黑客帝国里的锡安是真实世界吗(黑客帝国中的锡安是另一个矩阵世界)

今日笑话 2022年05月29日
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《黑客帝国》里的锡安是不是虚拟世界

仁者见仁,智者见智

黑客帝国的世界观有多种解构,再加上导演没有明确的说明白,所以自然会分为几种派别进行解读,有认为锡安是虚拟世界的,一切只是一场轮回,也有认为不,要看你自己如何去理解的,找最适合你的

黑客帝国中的锡安是真实的还是虚拟的

假的 整个电影没有真实世界

所以尼奥才能在“真实世界”使用超能力

“真实世界”其实是电脑刻意制作出来

用来引导那几个所谓的“觉醒者”让他们创造“锡安” 然后出现“救世主”

然后用“救世主”来解决 史密斯 这个最强悍得让母体毫无办法的病毒

所以电影会说 以前几代的“锡安”都被毁灭了 那都是因为前几代的“救世主”都败给了病毒

所以 真实世界到底是个什么样子的从来就没出现过

-------------以上只是我自己的一些看法

毕竟最后的结局太模糊了 仁者见仁智者见智

《黑客帝国》中锡安是不是真实的

其实锡安是不是真实并不重要,重要的是锡安在电影中扮演的是相对Matrix要真实的世界,也就是Matrix中的人要觉醒才能去锡安,所以锡安的自由度相对要高一些,如果真的没有真实世界,我们就可以把锡安看成是真实的世界。关于黑客帝国的很多问题可以参考http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/5254839.html?si=2,里面多数文章的作者“杂物”是的真实论者,我的观点也偏向于真实,主要论据是锡安没有必要是虚拟的,当然这并不严谨,但当你更深入了解电影的哲学折射的时候,你会发现这并不是一个重要的问题。

正如兄弟导演的态度一样,他们不对此作出评论,是想观众们各自持有自己的想法,而两种想法都有一定的依据。

我认为:锡安虽然是个真实的世界,但是个受控的系统,受谁控制?当然是电脑,但不是Matrix,是比Matrix更高一级的电脑,可以认为是source,它是由Matrix故意释放一些人建立的,也就是Architect所说的由The one带领的16女7男,目的有两个,一个是放置排斥系统的1%的人,第二是让这些人与The one接触,使The one可以了解更多关于人类的数据(这些数据只能从自由的人那里取得,因为Matrix里的人是受控的,它们的思想都来自于Matrix,所以没有新东西可以让Matrix学习),帮助Matrix系统升级。

Neo真实世界的超能力也可以这样去论证:Neo是帮助系统升级的,所以是系统的一部分,可以这样看,Neo和特工是同类,但他拥有更高级的权限,因为这样,他才能顺利完成收集信息的任务,权限也就等同于能力,所以他可以修改Matrix中的代码,以实现各种各样的超能力。因为他是要脱离Matrix来执行任务的,所以系统也要保证他在外面的安全,最起码不会被“自己人”八爪鱼和炸弹所伤,所以系统给予Neo可以控制它们的权限。很多人会问,下命令也要有人机接口啊。其实接口就是无线接入,就象Zion人在飞船接入一样,也是无线接入的。而Neo比较特殊,它是长期在线的,只不过他之前没有发现而已,也可能这种接入只限于对source,而不能进入Matrix。

他在真实世界看到金色的Smith和金色机械城道理也一样,Neo是长期在线的,所以能source进行信息交换,他没瞎之前以他的视觉感观为主,但瞎了以后,没有视觉感观的阻碍,可以直接感知source与他共享的数据,可以说,这时他是以机器的眼睛来看真实的世界。这点可以通过两个方面来说明:第一、Smith程序模式是电脑感知的,因为他就是来自于Matrix,所以Neo看到的是Smith的样子,而不是Banne的样子。第二、Neo瞎了以后看不到小崔,是因为电脑还没看到她的到来,所以感知不到。

这只是个人看法,不嫌啰嗦再重复一遍:锡安是不是真实并不重要,重要的是锡安和Matrix是有一定区别的,这种区别才是重点,至于是什么区别,其他黑迷有更详细的论述,我就不多此一举了,看我上面提供的那个网址吧

《黑客帝国》里的锡安到底是真实世界还是另一个母体

黑客帝国里面的锡安当然是真实世界了,电影中没有任何情节和相关暗示表明锡安是虚拟的。认为锡安是虚拟的母体的观众,一定是根据尼欧可以操纵乌贼兵还有炸弹的那个情节,但是既然故事的背景是高度发达的电脑文明,为什么就不可以是无线连接之类的设定呢,而且电影的第三部还暗示了尼欧因为曾经进入过“代码之源”,从而他的一部分留在了母体内,所以尼欧在现实世界其实也和机器城是有联系的。这种联系可以通过尼欧眼睛瞎了之后,仍然可以“看到”机器城来证明,因为他不是真正看到而是感觉到的。

还有最重要的一个根据,就是虚拟程度再高、再接近现实的系统,它总要有个实体吧,所谓没有无根之水,就算是多层虚拟,也要有个最终的现实世界,但是电影到了第三部已经明显不是虚无论调。而且在真正的科幻的意境,虚拟现实技术应该是和现实融合的,所以机器城和锡安共存明显是电影的真正结局,也是电影表达的真正意思。

电影黑客帝国里头的那个在地底的城市是真实存在的还是虚拟的?

这个片子有挺多人分析过,如果按片子本身的描述,锡安应该是真实存在,和母体那边相对立,但分析者一般认为锡安或者说锡安所在的世界也是虚拟的,理由主要是尼奥和史密斯都能进入锡安世界,并能够在锡安世界使用他们的力量,尼奥还好说一点,救世主嘛,史密斯一来本身就是程序,二来他的复制能力很明显是一种数字世界的能力,不应该在现实中存在,所以锡安应该和矩阵同样是虚拟的,另外,在尼奥盲眼时,他曾看到过史密斯的轮廓,同样是由代码组成,这也是一个证据。甚至有人认为在锡安之外还有若干层虚拟世界,官方一直没有给出说法,只能猜测了。

黑客帝国的锡安是真实的吗?

空手挡乌贼有俩解释:

1、锡安是虚拟的

2、锡安是真实的,neo连WIFI了

导演的解释是2

不过在我看了,觉得从前后剧情来说,其实更像是1

因为如果是2,明明可以WIFI进MATRIX(既然可以进火车人那里,为啥不能进别的地方?)那后来专门跑机械王国插线有点蛇足,和其他一些剧情也不太相符(锡安的轮回,如果是锡安是真实的,不太合逻辑)。

都是虚拟的也没啥讲不通啊,类似梦中梦的电影情节设置很多啊。。。

黑客帝国里锡安是不是真实存在的

锡安是真实的存在的,因为如果锡安是虚拟的,那么2,3部的剧情都是没有意义的,故事的内核完全倒退回第1部的真假之战。而事实上故事最后的结局:

人类方就是第二部中尼欧跟议长那段对话的探讨,人其实已经离不开机器了,于是选择停战。

机器方则是完成了系统的进化,因为以前的母体无论重启多少次,都没有得到实际上的进步,只是原地踏步。其实机器文明也一样,他如同矩阵一样是僵化的,机器无法完成自身的进化,矩阵系统实际上除了获取人类生物能源外,对于机器来说更重要的是通过观察人类社会获取物种进化的能力。新一代的程序(比如那个负责控制天气的小女孩)已经慢慢获得了更多人类的情感。最后先知这个作为改革派的程序利用尼欧与史密斯作为筹码,完成了矩阵的革命。矩阵的轮回停止了,而机器也离不开人类,所以选择停战。

最后机器跟人类达成了共存,可能也表达了导演抛出的一个命题,AI的崛起或许是未来不可避免的,作为人类应该考虑如何共存双赢。

那么最后让我们再回到锡安真假的问题,如果锡安是假的,那么上面的剧情跟影片最后表达的什么共存、和平、双赢都是“Bull shit!”。剧情发展有意义吗?尼欧决战史密斯挽救人类与机器有意义吗?先知的革命有意义吗?最后先知跟建筑师的对话有意义吗?什么都没有意义了,只是机器自己玩的游戏,它们爱怎么瞎JB玩就怎么玩。这就如同导演绘声绘色给你讲一个津津有味的故事跟大道理等你若有所思的时候突然拍手掌大笑都TM是假的。

而且居中大量的台词,剧情,细节都是为了说明锡安是真实的而服务的,包括解释为什么尼欧获得了在真实世界影响机器的能力,这些就不列举了。

我想导演不会那么低级喜欢推翻自己设计的剧情对白还有概念吧?

所以锡安是真实存在的

我来说两句
黑客技术 2年前 (2022-05-30) | 回复
类与机器有意义吗?先知的革命有意义吗?最后先知跟建筑师的对话有意义吗?什么都没有意义了,只是机器自己玩的游戏,它们爱怎么瞎JB玩就怎么玩。这就如同导演绘声绘色给你讲一个津津有味的故事跟大道理等你若有所思的时候突然拍手掌
黑客技术 2年前 (2022-05-29) | 回复
认为锡安是虚拟的母体的观众,一定是根据尼欧可以操纵乌贼兵还有炸弹的那个情节,但是既然故事的背景是高度发达的电脑文明,为什么就不可以是无线连接之类的设定呢,而且电影的第三部还暗示了尼欧因为曾经进入过“代码之源”,从而他的一部分留在了母体内,所以尼欧在现实世界其实也
黑客技术 2年前 (2022-05-30) | 回复
存、和平、双赢都是“Bull shit!”。剧情发展有意义吗?尼欧决战史密斯挽救人类与机器有意义吗?先知的革命有意义吗?最后先知跟建筑师的对话有意义吗?什么都没
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